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	<title>Comments on: Mike Jani Promises that Fern Gully and Nanning Creek Tree Villages Are Saved</title>
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		<title>By: Soul Feather</title>
		<link>http://www.forestdefenders.com/2008/08/13/mike-jani-promises-that-fern-gully-and-nanning-creek-tree-villages-are-saved/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Soul Feather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey M.D., nice website. It all depends on the amount of people in the trees, sensitivity of the area, how "hot" the area is, etc... many factors are in play during a tree-sit. Let me know if you'd like to learn more about tree-sitting in Humboldt County.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey M.D., nice website. It all depends on the amount of people in the trees, sensitivity of the area, how &#8220;hot&#8221; the area is, etc&#8230; many factors are in play during a tree-sit. Let me know if you&#8217;d like to learn more about tree-sitting in Humboldt County.</p>
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		<title>By: M. D. Vaden of Oregon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. D. Vaden of Oregon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lately, I starting to read a bit more about this form of activity - tree sitting.

Apparently, more focus can be on the persons in the tree, than those on the ground.

How many folks are needed on the ground usually, to support one person in the tree?

Cheers,

M. D. Vaden of Oregon

http://www.mdvaden.com/redwood_climbing.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lately, I starting to read a bit more about this form of activity - tree sitting.</p>
<p>Apparently, more focus can be on the persons in the tree, than those on the ground.</p>
<p>How many folks are needed on the ground usually, to support one person in the tree?</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>M. D. Vaden of Oregon</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mdvaden.com/redwood_climbing.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.mdvaden.com/redwood_climbing.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Soul Feather</title>
		<link>http://www.forestdefenders.com/2008/08/13/mike-jani-promises-that-fern-gully-and-nanning-creek-tree-villages-are-saved/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Soul Feather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey candid! much love to you! we're all still at it over here... trying to save the forests. you should come visit the gully!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey candid! much love to you! we&#8217;re all still at it over here&#8230; trying to save the forests. you should come visit the gully!</p>
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		<title>By: canid</title>
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		<dc:creator>canid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love to amy, lodgepole, sequoia, shunka, willow, and everybody else over on the coast.

i miss nanning like nothing else by alaska, and i hope to see fern gully one day. there's nothing like the morning view from grandma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love to amy, lodgepole, sequoia, shunka, willow, and everybody else over on the coast.</p>
<p>i miss nanning like nothing else by alaska, and i hope to see fern gully one day. there&#8217;s nothing like the morning view from grandma.</p>
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		<title>By: Humbolt County Movie Trailer &#124; MarijuanaNews.com</title>
		<link>http://www.forestdefenders.com/2008/08/13/mike-jani-promises-that-fern-gully-and-nanning-creek-tree-villages-are-saved/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Humbolt County Movie Trailer &#124; MarijuanaNews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mike Jani Promises that Fern Gully and Nanning Creek Tree Villages &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Muskrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Muskrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you SF. I just wish everyone wasn't in such a hurry to commend HRC/MRC for basically doing nothing but putting up flags and giving a verbal promise that can be broken by their documented business plan. 

Was there any kind of negotiating before everyone hopped in bed with the media and HRC/MRC? 

We had a chance to protect the groves forever. Why did the people who were involved at that crucial point in time blow it?

I promise, I'm not a complete pessimist. I'm stoked about our victories and how they will inspire others to take action. 

But the energies that went into defending both actions were not meant to make a greenwashed company more money from a better public image. Furthurmore, the media message that we "Saved the Redwoods" again just like with Julia Butterfly, Headwaters, etc. furthur confuses the public into believing that our redwood forests are protected.

As you know SF, they are not protected. And HRC/MRC is not a green company. I will not compromise to herbicides and clearcuts for a photo op with a snake. 

The message that our actions were trying to convey the past 3-6 years was never picked up by the major media because the public was already saturated with Treesits and Butterflies from the past two decades.
Our big opportunity to propel our message of the continued assault on our redwoods turned into a Chevronesque feel good advertisement for the GAP. 

That's what makes me sick.

But we did it. We saved Spooner. And Libertal. And Grandma. And Her Majesty. And the minute amount of big trees left on PL property. And I'd do it again if I knew that this would be the outcome. No matter what the outcome, it is still a victory worth every effort that we made. 

See you at action camp:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you SF. I just wish everyone wasn&#8217;t in such a hurry to commend HRC/MRC for basically doing nothing but putting up flags and giving a verbal promise that can be broken by their documented business plan. </p>
<p>Was there any kind of negotiating before everyone hopped in bed with the media and HRC/MRC? </p>
<p>We had a chance to protect the groves forever. Why did the people who were involved at that crucial point in time blow it?</p>
<p>I promise, I&#8217;m not a complete pessimist. I&#8217;m stoked about our victories and how they will inspire others to take action. </p>
<p>But the energies that went into defending both actions were not meant to make a greenwashed company more money from a better public image. Furthurmore, the media message that we &#8220;Saved the Redwoods&#8221; again just like with Julia Butterfly, Headwaters, etc. furthur confuses the public into believing that our redwood forests are protected.</p>
<p>As you know SF, they are not protected. And HRC/MRC is not a green company. I will not compromise to herbicides and clearcuts for a photo op with a snake. </p>
<p>The message that our actions were trying to convey the past 3-6 years was never picked up by the major media because the public was already saturated with Treesits and Butterflies from the past two decades.<br />
Our big opportunity to propel our message of the continued assault on our redwoods turned into a Chevronesque feel good advertisement for the GAP. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes me sick.</p>
<p>But we did it. We saved Spooner. And Libertal. And Grandma. And Her Majesty. And the minute amount of big trees left on PL property. And I&#8217;d do it again if I knew that this would be the outcome. No matter what the outcome, it is still a victory worth every effort that we made. </p>
<p>See you at action camp:)</p>
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		<title>By: Soul Feather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soul Feather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As per Mike Jani carrying around a piece of the clothing, I suggest you speak to "Lodgepole" about that. Jani told him the story directly about carrying the clothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per Mike Jani carrying around a piece of the clothing, I suggest you speak to &#8220;Lodgepole&#8221; about that. Jani told him the story directly about carrying the clothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Soul Feather</title>
		<link>http://www.forestdefenders.com/2008/08/13/mike-jani-promises-that-fern-gully-and-nanning-creek-tree-villages-are-saved/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Soul Feather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff,

Thanks for your comment, much appreciated. I look forward to meeting you and talking about the movement in person. Congrats on the success! I know that you were/are a major part of the defense throughout the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment, much appreciated. I look forward to meeting you and talking about the movement in person. Congrats on the success! I know that you were/are a major part of the defense throughout the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Muskrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Muskrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To top it all off, Mike Jani has been carrying around a piece of Gypsy's clothing for years since he learned of his death. Doesn't anyone else find that statement creepy? Why would Jani say that, aside from a shameful public relations stunt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To top it all off, Mike Jani has been carrying around a piece of Gypsy&#8217;s clothing for years since he learned of his death. Doesn&#8217;t anyone else find that statement creepy? Why would Jani say that, aside from a shameful public relations stunt?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Muskrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Muskrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, thanks for all your hard work on protecting Nanning Creek and Fern Gully. It must have been hard for you to hike in all that food, hike out all that trash, oraganize all of those people, raise all of those funds and equipmen and stay so long up in those trees over the past 3-6 years.

Let's hear it for ALL of the hundreds of people that have been involved with Nanning and Fern Gully over the past 3-6 years.

Most importantly, let's remember the thousands of those who have been saving Humboldt's forests over the past two decades, and pay our respects to those who have given their lives for our trees, such as Jungle and Gypsy.

Everyone knew the Nanning and Fern Gully THP's would eventally time out and expire. That was the minor goal. 

The major goal was to permenantly protect these areas, aside of course from token verbal promises from a salesman representing a greenwashed corporation that is still clearcutting on steep slopes and using herbicides.

How is that a victory? What kind of compromise is that for an EarthFirster!?

Nothing has been set in stone as far as permenant protections for these two groves. If HRC was serious about saving the last large stands of Old Growth left on Old PL property, they would take permenant steps to protect the future of these groves.

MRC came to Humboldt to make money. When the importance of profit shifts from their focus on public relations, they will change their "green" tune.

See you for the 5-7 year THP renewal reunion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, thanks for all your hard work on protecting Nanning Creek and Fern Gully. It must have been hard for you to hike in all that food, hike out all that trash, oraganize all of those people, raise all of those funds and equipmen and stay so long up in those trees over the past 3-6 years.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hear it for ALL of the hundreds of people that have been involved with Nanning and Fern Gully over the past 3-6 years.</p>
<p>Most importantly, let&#8217;s remember the thousands of those who have been saving Humboldt&#8217;s forests over the past two decades, and pay our respects to those who have given their lives for our trees, such as Jungle and Gypsy.</p>
<p>Everyone knew the Nanning and Fern Gully THP&#8217;s would eventally time out and expire. That was the minor goal. </p>
<p>The major goal was to permenantly protect these areas, aside of course from token verbal promises from a salesman representing a greenwashed corporation that is still clearcutting on steep slopes and using herbicides.</p>
<p>How is that a victory? What kind of compromise is that for an EarthFirster!?</p>
<p>Nothing has been set in stone as far as permenant protections for these two groves. If HRC was serious about saving the last large stands of Old Growth left on Old PL property, they would take permenant steps to protect the future of these groves.</p>
<p>MRC came to Humboldt to make money. When the importance of profit shifts from their focus on public relations, they will change their &#8220;green&#8221; tune.</p>
<p>See you for the 5-7 year THP renewal reunion.</p>
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